Join energy coaches David Arkell and John Pooley, producer Lysandra Naom, and former Director of Materials for Clean Fuels at National Research Council Canada (NRCC) Dr. Phil De Luna on an episode all about a sustainable future. This episode features what a sustainable future looks like and who is responsible, the role of government, what business' can do to get involved, incentives and more. This episode was recorded on March 9th, 2022. Phil has since left his role as Director of Materials for Clean Fuels at National Research Council Canada (NRCC).